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Why the USA Judicial System is Unfair

The USA’s judicial system is unfair and heavily slanted toward the prosecution.  I’m going to explain how and why.  Here, I’ll break down three obvious ones.

If you can guess that a criminal entertainment channel disguised as a news outlet is one of ‘em … you’d be correct.  Can you guess who I’m referring to?

 There’s only 1 media outlet 
Due to the media, the accused is presumed guilty; when a defendant is in the defendant’s chair, walking in handcuffed, Americans view that person as guilty.
There’s only one media outlet that covers high profile legal cases.  This media outlet happens to be biased tabloid yellow journalism, and it’s called HLN.  While news sources may cover a high profile case in a 3 minute piece, HLN pounds away with their propaganda all afternoon and all evening.  Where’s the balance?   Do jurors go home and read websites and watch television?  Of course.

Balance is sorely missing, as HLN, which is mere tabloid yellow journalism, has a monopoly on the market.  There needs to be a news source under the auspice of a large corporation like CNN that balances things out.  Perhaps a source for news that reflects a website like this one. And watch this 2-minute pop-up video of Brian Stelter the NY Times explaining: how HLN influences media outlets -- even their own sister channel yet competitor, HLN.

 

 Prosecutors have absolute immunity 

Strengthened by the Rehberg v. Paulk SCOTUS decision, prosecutors like Linda Drane Burdick and Jeff Ashton can knowingly lie under oath about chloroform searches with no worries.  Mike Nifong can charge Duke Lacrosse players with a serious charge like rape while knowing he’s completely lying with little punishment.  Juan Martinez can throw pens and papers, bully witnesses, and cut the testimony of witnesses out with no recourse.  Heck, ,Juan Martinez can even tell the jury to put themselves in Travis Alexander’s shoes — a blatant violation of US law — without an admonishment or a mistrial.  Judge Sherry Stephens just has to say “the jury is to disregard what the state said.”  How can they?  It’s already been said!

 The prosecution gets 2 closing arguments while the defense gets 1 
All of these things must be fixed in the future if we’re ever to have a fair judicial system, if we’re ever going to cease from being “incarceration nation”, and if we’re ever going to quell criminal entertainment tabloids like HLN.
This is perhaps the most unfair part of our judicial system.  Closing arguments, such as the ones taking place at the time of this posting in the Jodi Arias case, start off with the prosecution’s closing argument.  Remember, the trial has already been heavily slanted toward the prosecution.  Then, the defense has an opportunity to proffer their closing argument.  So it’s over, right?

Wrong!  In the USA, the prosecution gets a 2nd closing argument.  Some people call this a “rebuttal”, but all it really is, is another closing argument.  Where’s the fairness there — especially considering the entire trial is slanted toward the prosecution in the first place?

What are your thoughts?  Leave your comments below!

Jason Weber
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  • Ithaca is gorgeous

    First, I despise Nancy Grace I think she is as whacked as Jodi. That being said I am trying to figure out why you are on a mission to stop HLN? Tell me how they are any different than you? You have an opinion and they have an opinion they rile up one side of this trial you do the other. The nurminator how about he show a little respect for the court and the jurors by sitting up for once before getting a nickname this isn’t “I’m lovin it time”. You say get rid of the death penalty, for real? If there is indisputable proof that a person was involved in a murder outside of self defense the only outcome should be the death penalty. They didn’t spare the individuals life they killed why should theirs be spared. And it should happen quick after conviction none of this sitting on death row crap. Please don’t respond with two wrongs don’t make a right.

    • OL

      You can’t compare This singular Mans Article to HLN and commentators like Nancy Grace Jane Velez there is a huge difference. Steven Brill who started the Court Channel was sorry he had unleashed Nancy Grace and created this Monster. The fact is that no Defendant can get a fair Trial when they are so demonized by the Press, The Hate Mongers are out of control and this can harm our Judicial System.

      • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

        Correct, OL … HLN is a machine. I’m one guy. But yes, Garry Spence wrote “Bloodthirsty Bitches and Pious Pimps of Power” about Steven Brill … well, Brill is mentioned a lot in it. Ithaca would benefit from reading it. Indeed, HLN has a monopoly on the high profile crimes “market”, and they use it to push their agenda. They’re the impetus to the imbalance in our judicial system, and part of the reason we’re the Incarceration Nation with a prison lobby that’s out of control.

        ~ Jason

        • OL

          I love that book,I read many Of Gerry Spence’s books, and He really is quite amazing. Ron Paul speaks about our country having more people in Prison then China. Prison is a business today, very tragic.

          • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

            Absolutely, OL Prison is a for-profit industry and many are profiteering while harmless people are locked up for long periods of time. We have 1/4 of the world’s prison population right in in our borders. That’s just not right. And don’t think HLN isn’t a part of it — they’re a big part of it.

            ~ Jason

          • OL

            Tragic That’s why my friend posted The Oscar Wilde Because a guy was saying when he quoted Wilde in defense of LaViolette, Don’t you dare etc.But he had no knowledge how much Oscar Wilde did for prison reform, Children were in Prison in England for parents who owed Debts etc. We certainly are a Barbaric society,
            We should feel compassion, yet all the Media does is promote hate, and they wonder why all the violence.

          • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

            Excellent points. Thanks for sharing!

            ~ Jason

          • Leah

            WOW. A lot of inmates come back to jail, don’t they? There needs to be prison reform.

    • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

      First, Ithaca, if you’re name is what it seems, I graduated from Cornell University. HLN has a monopoly on the high profile crimes in our media. Yeah, a news outlet might put a 3 minute piece out there each day, but these Tabloid Clowns have this case all afternoon, evening, and night. There isn’t anything to counter them. It’s imbalanced. They’re one-sided and biased as hell, and have an agenda.

      This entire post is why I’m against the death penalty. Our judicial system is imbalanced in favor of the prosecution. I don’t know who on death row is innocent and who’s guilty. Prosecutors have absolute immunity and can do whatever they want. See: Nifong, Mike … what if he got away with his little scheme and hung those Duke Lacrosse boys out to dry on rape charges — like disGrace was calling for? This is why HLN Tabloid TV and the death penalty need to go: http://www.occupyhln.org/hln-propaganda/why-the-death-penalty-needs-to-be-abolished/

      ~ Jason

      • Ithaca is gorgeous

        Very nice on graduating from Cornell, I am from the area. Indisputable evidence proves that Jodi killed Travis, her prints where found in the blood heck she even has admitted it. Again if a jury finds her guilty why should the taxpayer continue to feed and house her for life when she gave no thought to Travis’ life? There should be no option but death in a guilty conviction like this. Also the Casey Anthony case proves that our system does work, that was just as high of a profile case everyone was calling for her head yet the jury said the prosecutor did not give enough proof of guilt we cannot convict.

        • cb

          You must be perfect.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            I must be perfect?? I sure as hell didn’t stab someone 27 times, basically decapitate them, shoot them in the head and then go fuck a friend! I look like a saint compared to that. Again the question I have that nobody answers is why should she not get the death penalty?

          • cb

            What if it was your daughter or son who committed a crime like this? Would you want them to be put to death? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            What if Travis was your son? Would you be fine with somebody getting totally off or a couple years in prison for killing him? Yea that’s what I thought

          • ljrobins

            I am against the death penalty 100%. But that is another issue. In this case, I don’t believe the prosecution has proven its premeditation or a felony murder beyond a reasonable doubt. So, no murder 1 and no felony murder. Murder 2 or manslaughter is my guess.

          • cb

            You answered a question with a question. What if she was your daughter? and if Travis was my son, I would still feel the same way. Yes I would.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            Tyson said, everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face. The ignorance of people like you amazes me, unless you have been through the situation there is absolutely NO way to know how you would react, so don’t be so sure of yourself. And you feel she is just sick and should be treated I suppose? The problem in our country is there isn’t harsh enough consequences for wrongdoing, there wasn’t when kids were growing up from their parents, and there isn’t today as adults from the goverment. Let me guess you also think the Boston bomber is only sick and should be treated in some way, same thing with the Sandy Hook killer if he was alive? Again take off your rose colored glasses.

          • ljrobins

            Your logic is quite faulty, Ithaca. We should all take a page out of the Norwegian model of sentencing and imprisonment. It is actually quite civilized, and even better, a less than 30% reoffending rate. That is astounding! These are the lowest figures of any country in Europe and HALF of those in the UK. I can only imagine how high it is in Canada or the USA compared to there.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people

            A few points of interest:

            1. Prison guards in this particular prison are trained for 3 years! Prison guards in the US are trained for 6 weeks!

            2. Norwary has no death penalty and no life sentences.

            3. Rather than live in a tiny box with ridiculous restrictions, prisoners work, grow their own food, good two meals a day and share a cabin with a few of their fellow prisoners. They learn life, work and social skills that allow them to adapt to life outside of prison.

            The prison system in North America has been taken prisoner by the lobbyists, tabloid media and opportunists who want to make a name for themselves (Juan, Ashton, etc.) rather than seek or fight for justice.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            I assume you seriously believe their crime rate is lower do to their progressive prison system? Maybe put up the stats of their violent to non violent crimes compared to the US.Why not post about their rape cases skyrocketing the last couple years, probably do in part to the max sentence of 2 yrs if you rape someone. Our prison system is run for profit in this country, that doesn’t mean it is right but we both know Norway’s system would never work here with the culture we have going on. If you think a few years of rafting trips and birdwatching are ideal tools to rehabilitate serial killers and sociopaths, then I will take “faulty logic” any day.

          • ljrobins

            Ithaca, it’s not a perfect system, and I suspect that they will keep modifying until they find a better balance.

            I found this interesting article: http://www.thenation.com/blog/169589/sentencing-criminals-norway-too-soft-or-are-we-too-harsh#

            Also another one on foreigners traveling (not immigrants) contributing to the increase in crime:

            http://www.norwaypost.no/index.php/news/latest-news/28235-foreigners-increase-norways-crime-statistics

            If you have articles that discuss what you have outlined above I would be very interested to be able to read more about that.

            Cheers

          • Leah

            Very interesting articles, thanks for sharing. We have an imperfect system, and I think we’ll have less killers on the street with life in prison without the possibility of parole. Many killers don’t care if they die anyway; a lot of them forego their appeals to face a quiet, painless death. Life in prison is a living hell and a punishment like is good for our country because people will think twice about murder.

          • Heather Soper

            Sorry Leah, but having the DP doesn’t and hasn’t made your crime rate any better at all, in fact it is one of the highest in the world! Look up the statistics. What you say is complete fallacy.

          • Leah

            Reread my comment… I said LWOP not DP.

          • Heather Soper

            I see Leah, my mistake. But LWOP is cruel. Over here it would be reserved for serial killers, that is all. Jodi is not a serial killer, she is no threat to anyone. I maintain your judicial system is barbaric, there’s some sadist at work who enjoys sentencing innocent people to LWOP.
            Your iniustice system HAS to change, its just plain wrong.

          • Heather Soper

            Our crime rate is much lower in the UK. We don’t have the DP, consequently we don’t murder the innocent like the US do.

          • Leah

            think it’s a mentality approach? UK vs. USA? USA is out for blood. When someone’s murdered, how does the victim’s family react?

          • Heather Soper

            Simply? Realistically, Not out of revenge.
            If the US States that still have the DP were allowed to publicly behead, they would. These vengeful States are still in the Middle Ages. Of course its a mentality approach. There can be Nothing fair in a biased system with a Death Qualified Jury.

          • Leah

            I’ve seen many disturbing comments from people that they want to kill Jodi the same way that Travis was killed. That’s just poison for the mind.

            So if not out of revenge, what do the victims’ families seek? Someone made a good point in this forum, that a lot of families want to find the bodies of their loved ones and they will take the DP off the table if the killer will lead police to the bodies.

          • Heather Soper

            Leah, your last sentence, ”that a lot of families want to find the bodies..”, to my mind there should be no bartering with the DP; all that does is to ensure the DP stays for some that kill in self defence, when there is a body.

            I find it absolutely amazing at how many people want to keep the DP, at how many people believe in the courts, at how many people don’t see the corruption. Its astonishing!

            Its subversion, these individuals have been totally and utterly brainwashed!
            In your words, Leah, they’ve been poisoned by the State. These so called apologies for human beings that salivate for someone’s death and get so upset when it doesn’t happen, are Rabid.

          • Heather Soper

            ”The ignorance of people like you amazes me, unless you have been through the situation there is absolutely NO way to know how you would react, so don’t be so sure of yourself”

            Well, have You been through that situation, then?

            What sort of ”consequenses for wrongdoing” would be harsh enough for you? A public beheading, perhaps?

          • Heather Soper

            I would have to look at my son honestly and see that he was a violent abuser who attacked his girlfriend. Ever heard of mitigating circumstances? There’s a VAST difference between Having to kill someone in order to save your life, and killing them premeditatedly, which is Murder in the 1st degree. I think it about time you looked closely at this difference, and then and only then will you be on the right track.

          • Heather Soper

            I will answer your question: Simply because she is not guilty of 1st Degree murder, plus the DP is barbaric and should be abolished.
            Like all the others who have been brainwashed you describe it untruthfully to sensationalise it to give justification for the death penalty; it wasn’t as you describe, and you know it.

        • cb

          No one is denying that she killed Travis Alexander. Everyone knows she killed Travis. No one is disputing that. She does not deserve the death penalty and most people want to see her get the death penalty especially HLN since they have been promoting this the whole time. I am not a bible freak and I don’t walk around preaching to the world, but I know enough to realize that we have no right to put someone to death for anything. We are all guilty of various types of sin. God gave us life and he decides when a persons time is up, not us. Now if you don’t believe in God as I do then that is your problem. I believe this is about compassion, spirituality, and common sense for both the victim and the killer because we don’t have solid proof of what exactly happened that day and we don’t have any room to judge either and as far as I’m concerned many people lack compassion, spirituality, and common sense these days.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            First off I do not watch HLN, I will say again I despise Nancy Grace and the company that hires her so the I’m a sheeple thing really doesn’t fit in here. Keep ignoring the facts, I see you didn’t answer my question on why did Jodi stay with Travis after all that abuse. Travis was no saint but he didn’t deserve to die. And since you brought up this whole Bible, God subject read the following verses, but I suppose you do what most Bible reading people do and only pick the parts that apply to what you want..

            Romans 13:4

            For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. The sword is a symbol of the governments power to use capitol punishment.

            And maybe your type of people should consider this verse:

            Ecclesiastes 8:11

            Because sentence against a evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of man is fully set in them to do evil.

          • cb

            She stayed with Travis because she was abused. Yes, believe it or not. Same reason why I stayed with my abuser. Same reason why many women do. I worked in a domestic violence shelter. I was a 911 dispatcher and worked for the police department for several years and many women stay with their abusers sometimes all of their lives. They will protect the abuser from the police after calling the police themselves. I thought I could change my abuser. I thought he really loved me. They strip us of our dignity, self respect and they make us feel like we aren’t good enough to find someone else. I was in a domestic violence relationship and I don’t care what anyone says. He abused her. I fought back one day with my abuser after years of abuse. Some women get fed up and fight back and all the anger and rage comes out all in one moment. This is why I believed she “overkilled him” she was angry and tired of his mental abuse. I believe that. It is a love hate relationship that will always end bad.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            I never said I do not think she was abused, I do not know if she was, I only can go by what Jodi has said and she hasn’t exactly been known for her honesty. My point was OL was saying Travis never would have stayed with a stalker or if he felt his life was threatened, but yet OL wants me to believe that oh yes Jodi was abused and just stayed with him because that’s how those relationships work. You can’t have it both ways.

          • cb

            Only go by what Jodi has said? Are you kidding me? Did you not see the degrading emails he sent her? Did you not hear the recordings of all the slutty names he called her? He did this the whole time they were together. He did not treat the other girls in his life that way. That alone is in and of itself mental abuse. Travis was no angel. He was a hypocrite. He played with God and he played with Jodi and he was a pig. Nobody ever talks about that do they! Yes he did not deserve to die, but he was no angel!

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            How many more time do I need to say it, Travis was no angel, I know this. If you listened to any of the recordings between the two of them, or read emails between them she loved the slutty name calling just as much as he did. He didn’t treat other girls that way because they did not go along with him in that area Jodi did, heck she was all about taking nude pics, and doing anal even with previous boyfriends and you want me to think she took the slutty names as degrading?? Right!!

          • Heather Soper

            If you can’t tell she was acting on that tape then I feel sorry for you. Jodi went along with what Travis wanted because she loved him, that is ALL there was to it.
            You seem to have a problem understanding this, its on par with why women stay with their abusers. Jodi very much mistakenly thought (at that time) that in the end he would want her to marry him.
            Of course when she realised that he just wasn’t marriage material and wasn’t the right person for her, she moved back to CA. She wanted what many young free and single people want, to stay friends with Travis, just like she had with her previous boyfriends, meaning of course, no sex, but TA didn’t want that and wouldn’t let go of her – AT THE SAME TIME – telling his friends that SHE was stalking HIM, slashing his tyres, etc. but still wanting sex.

            Since when does anyone have sex with their stalker? Jodi became Travis’ dirty little secret, little did she realise at the time that he would abuse her..

            Some young women mistakenly THINK that if their boyfriends want sex with them they will want to always be with them. This definitely isn’t true, especially so with TA because he not only cheated on her with many women (and cheated on Them), he wanted to control her. Travis was a violent abuser, as you say you know.
            Yes, other women did not go along with him, you’re right, but its HIGH TIME you realised that we are NOT all built the same, nor are we perfect. It took Jodi Longer to Learn, that’s ALL, aren’t we ALL guilty of that at some point in our lives? Have you ever made a mistake? We saw the 24 hours interview – when Jodi was still Very Young; most of us realise that Jodi is not the same person now, she has matured, she is older and she has learned – the HARD WAY.
            Jodi did what MANY women have done and DO, which is to allow their emotions take over – emotions that are unwittingly misplaced, Jodi was young and, Yes, she thought Wrongly. Since when has That ever been a Crime?

          • Heather Soper

            Maybe Your type should rethink on your way to Church. You actually go to Church? And think like This?

            All this ”Travis was no saint, he didn’t deserve to die”, it rolls off the tongue parrott fashion, doesn’t it? Its learned behaviour.

            But it Sounds good when put like that, doesn’t it?
            Sounds like she just got up one morning and thought she’d go and murder him, for that is what you like to convey..
            except that it wasn’t like that, was it? Nothing quite that simple, was it.

            Maybe your type of people should consider this:

            IF Travis hadn’t been a violent abuser, IF he hadn’t told Jodi he was going to kill her, he would be alive today. Fact.

        • Heather Soper

          You have forgotten one very important thing; Evidence. Premeditation has not been proved, can never be proved.

          I daresay you would think you should be put to death if you had had to kill in self defence?

          How about remembering this:
          ”There but for the Grace of God go I.”
          Think about it on your way to Church.

          Let me tell you this, that in Casey Anthony’s case it was by luck rather than judgement that she didn’t get the DP.

    • cb

      Your thinking is worse then the crime that Jodi committed and you should be ashamed of yourself.

      • Ithaca is gorgeous

        Take off your rose colored glasses and see Jodi for who she is once. A murder that stabbed someone 27 times, basically decapitated them, and shot them, then tried to cover it up. She’s a psycho.

        • cb

          She is sick, not a psycho. She never once committed a crime in her life. Everyone who knew her knew a very nice and gentle person. She acted out with her parents because they were overly strict with her and her dad was abusive. I could see if she had a history of killing animals or fist fighting in school. HLN is completely once sided and they never touch on these important things. She does not have a history of violence. Travis does and you are blind and a sheeple to believe everything HLN puts out.

        • Heather Soper

          No, it did Not happen that way; if you watched the trial you would have realised he wasn’t stabbed first, there is Evidence of this. Where you got the stabbing first, was from when Martinez changed his story to make look worse; he even had the court in silence to ‘feel’ the pain he went through – THAT is how disgustingly vile that man is. If you can’t see this, I feel sorry for you. He wants her to die, guilty or not, why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
          JM Brainwashed the jury, and those like you; it was easy to do this, it came down to a Sales Pitch. And you and the jury bought it, that’s all, and he knew you would.
          Tell me, if You had to fight for your life, I mean, imagine it if you can, someone tells you right that second he/she is going to kill you, right there–you would stab someone to save your life wouldn’t you? Or would you just let them kill you?
          Would You like to be called a psycho?.
          Why don’t you think for yourself, learn the whole story and in doing so your rose coloured glasses should disappear without you even touching them.

      • Heather Soper

        You are absolutey right, cb, she Should be very ashamed. This is what they have been brainwashed to think :/

    • Alessi

      The most obvious reason to end the death penalty is the irrefutable fact that in America innocent people have been executed. People whose guilt was considered indisputable until after their deaths when they were found to be innocent.

      Do you need more reasons?

    • Leah

      Why I oppose the death penalty:

      Dr. Ault, who used to be an executioner for the State of Georgia: “…I’ve been involved in criminal justice for almost 40 years. I know how imperfect is its. It’s usually not not about justice. It’s more about winning. When you understand that it boils down to is that when you are there for revenge, some people want to say, well, it’s retribution. It’s really revenge. Societal’s revenge. Oh Father, if you seek revenge, you need to dig two graves, one for the person you killed and one for yourself.”

      I’m sure this trial has left people talking about the death penalty. There really shouldn’t be a death penalty for many reasons… 1) god forbid, what if the person is innocent? 2) it is poison for people of conscience to watch, perform or partake in the execution ( jury, victims’ family, prosecutor, the media & public rooting for Jodi to die, the person flipping the switch) 3) Many inmates in jail have disabilities, mental impairments. They still have protected rights. 4) No one wins. everyone suffers more, including the victims’ families.

      Lastly and most importantly, real justice is about living up to punishment. a death sentence is the easy way out, even Jodi agreed “it’s the ultimate freedom”. Life in prison without the possibility of parole is the ultimate punishment. 75 years in a claustrophobic cell 22 hours a day without sunshine? That’s living hell. When you enforce a punishment like that, people think twice about murder. It’s what keeps our streets relatively safe.

      • Heather Soper

        That’s the thing, Leah, as I said earlier, no punishment is a deterrent to anyone who is mentally sick, so locking people away for life does nothing other than to make the people think the courts are right, when we know that in the majority of cases they are sicker than the people they prosecute. Subversion stinks.

    • Heather Soper

      What SHould be of utmost importance to you, but isn’t, is that an innocent person can be sent to their death by your barbaric and antiquated injustice system. Look up the statistics of how many innocent people have been murdered by the State, you are the top country for that and it shouldn’t make you proud. We in the UK don’t have the death penalty for that very reason, we abolished it years ago.
      One can always THink they have the right person, or people wouldn’t have been wrongly convicted – there wouldn’t be any such thing.
      So, yes, get rid of the death penalty–for REAL and leave the Middle Ages behind, for the US is still stuck in it.
      You think such a kangaroo court should be, what? Respected? A biased Judge, a death qualified Jury?? A prosecutor who should be jailed for misconduct? You don’t think this reprehensible?

  • OL

    I think that these Entertainment programs are very bad for the Judicial system as a whole, Imagine they have so many Mormons on every night stating Hear say, Its not fair for any defendant. HLN is very pro prosecution. There are certain things I would not want my client to do especially with the Light glaring so brightly on them, Jodie twittering. in my opinion is a bad idea. selling art work that belongs to well known advertisers, Silence is usually better.

    The judge should have sequestered the Jury. What surprises me is the hate mongers, I can understand the family, but strangers who do not know either of these people. and the Hate has come from both sides. I have heard dispicable comments about Travis Sister by Jodie Supporters over the top, Disgusting comments about LaViolette, Really barbaraic and disgusting behavior which should make all of us do a little sopuls searching. A friend of mine was attacked for defending LaViolettes Book on Amazon. His response to one of the attackers was very interesting

    This was an angry anti LaViolette person

    Your assertions here about increased sales are not corroborated, and who are these Neanderthals? Men who had been accused of satanic ritual abuse in court custody battles, that have had to deal with frauds like Alice? Women that have really been abused and find this “lady” abhorrent? What constitutional rights are you speaking of? And do not quote Wilde please, it is doing a disservice to the author.

    STUART

    This is a book review and you are defeating your own purpose. You are only giving more attention to this person that you despise. I am sure Entertainment tonight HLN Jerry Springer etc. have appropriate venues for people such as yourself that enjoy those types of forums. Where one can rant rave rage etc.You obviously have No knowledge Of Oscar Wilde I will not even try to educate you on Mr.Wilde’s View with regard to these types events. Oscar would agree with me.

    The Chaplain would not kneel to pray

    By his dishonoured grave:

    Nor mark it with that blessed Cross

    That Christ for sinners gave,

    Because the man was one of those

    Whom Christ came down to save.

    And all men kill the thing they love,

    By all let this be heard,

    Some do it with a bitter look,

    Some with a flattering word,

    The coward does it with a kiss,

    The brave man with a sword!

    From:

    The Ballad Of Reading Gaol (Goal is the English spelling for Jail)

    Oscar Wilde

    The Ballad of Reading Gaol is a poem by Oscar Wilde, written in exile either in Berneval or in Dieppe, France, after his release from Reading Gaol on or about 19 May 1897. Wilde had been incarcerated in Reading, after being convicted of homosexual offences in 1895 and sentenced to two years’ hard labour in prison.

    During his imprisonment, on Saturday 7 July 1896, a hanging took place. Charles Thomas Wooldridge (ca. 1866 – 7 July 1896) had been a trooper in the Royal Horse Guards. He was convicted of cutting the throat of his wife, Laura Ellen, earlier that year at Clewer, near Windsor. He was aged only 30 when executed. This had a PROFOUND effect on Wilde, inspiring the line “Yet each man kills the thing he loves.”

    The line is a nod to Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice, when Bassanio asks “Do all men kill the things they do not love?”

    A passage from the poem was chosen as the epitaph on Wilde’s tomb;

    And alien tears will fill for him,

    Pity’s long-broken urn,

    For his mourners will be outcast men,

    And outcasts always mourn.

    • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

      1- Good point. HLN is a tabloid entertainment channel … NOT a news source.
      2- Mormons are on a huge mission to convict Jodi. Travis was a disgrace, and the only way to save a little face for the church is to muddy her up and convict her of something to make Travis look “not as bad”.
      3- Sugar Sherry Stephens (she’s sweet to Juan) obviously should have sequestered this jury. It’s human nature. Do people think that these jurors don’t peek online, talk about it w/ friends, and watch tabloid shows like HLN?
      4- HLN and Juan trashing Laviolette is shameful. This is a woman who’s saved countless lives over the course of 3+ decades, and they smear her and question her motives. Please.

      Excellent post! Thank you for sharing, and please come back — more will always be coming!

      ~ Jason

      • OL

        I always wondered about the Slitting of the throat and perhaps the Mormon cult Travis and Jodie belonged to is covering something beyond what we know. It reminds me of The Book Under The Banner Of Heaven The Murder of Brenda Lafferty and her children, Many LDS still adhere to this practice and ofcourse they deny it.
        From Amazon

        In 1984, Ron and Dan Lafferty murdered the wife and infant daughter of their younger brother Allen. The crimes were noteworthy not merely for their brutality but for the brothers’ claim that they were acting on direct orders from God. In Under the Banner of Heaven, Jon Krakauer tells the story of the killers and their crime but also explores the shadowy world of Mormon fundamentalism from which the two emerged. The Mormon Church was founded, in part, on the idea that true believers could speak directly with God. But while the mainstream church attempted to be more palatable to the general public by rejecting the controversial tenet of polygamy, fundamentalist splinter groups saw this as apostasy and took to the hills to live what they believed to be a righteous life. When their beliefs are challenged or their patriarchal, cult-like order defied, these still-active groups, according to Krakauer, are capable of fighting back with tremendous violence. While Krakauer’s research into the history of the church is admirably extensive, the real power of the book comes from present-day information, notably jailhouse interviews with Dan Lafferty. Far from being the brooding maniac one might expect, Lafferty is chillingly coherent, still insisting that his motive was merely to obey God’s command. Krakauer’s accounts of the actual murders are graphic and disturbing, but such detail makes the brothers’ claim of divine instruction all the more horrifying. In an age where Westerners have trouble comprehending what drives Islamic fundamentalists to kill, Jon Krakauer advises us to look within America’s own borders. –John Moe

  • cb

    I have been watching the Jodie Arias trial all along and I’ve been watching it on HLN because I don’t know of any other news channel that shows the trial in depth. I am completely disgusted with the way these people have degraded and trashed this poor girl as if it wasn’t enough all the verbal abuse from Travis. All along I have wondered why they are being so malicious and so one sided. It is disgusting. I am worried that the jury is watching this which I’m sure might have an impact on their decision. Travis was no angel yet he did not deserve to die the way he did, however, he clearly mentally abused Jodie. It amazes me how the court has played these tapes and have shown numerous emails describing Travis demean Jodie and HLN still does not emphasize this. He even talked about sexual things regarding 12 year old girls and they still do not make this one of their topics. Just about every person on HLN whether male or female seem to go along in the bullying of Jodie. That is exactly what it reminds me of, bullying on national television and then you have the sheeple calling in and doing the same thing. It is just pure evil. I bet if they announced that Jodie would be hung in public, most people would actually stand and watch and enjoy seeing it happen. This poor girls life is on the line and HLN is having a party everyday. They laugh, joke and criticize Jodie all day long. It is sick. These people are worse then the crime itself. God help Jodie.

    • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

      Hi CB. Yes, this clown tabloid channel has a monopoly on these high profile crimes, and I grew tired of it and started Occupy HLN. I agree that nobody deserved to die; it’s a tragedy on both sides.

      But HLN only shows one side. JVM prescreens people outside the courthouse to see if they fit her agenda, then interviews them. I grew tired of this nonsensical brainwashing of the American public.

      There’s a HUGE Mormon coverup to convict Jodi. Why? Travis was a disgrace to their community. The only way to save a little face is to convict Jodi of something – and make Travis look “not as bad”. Travis was violent toward all of his exes — Sky Hughes said so in an e-mail, which I’ll be showing shortly. He was a sexual deviant who wanted Jodi to feel raped and orgasm like a 12 year old. He had secrets that the Mormon community would never want to hear.

      Rock Star Juan and HLN are the same — one-sided bullies who hide exculpatory evidence and are biased with an agenda. HLN is, in my mind, a criminal enterprise and I want them exposed. Biased anchors, co-hosts, reporters, and guests that brainwash the American public with ad-hominem, half-truths, and falsehoods.

      ~ Jason

      • cb

        Actually, Sky Hughes went on HLN and stated that the emails they sent to Jodi were not true and that they sent them to her so she would leave Travis alone. What is most disgusting to me is that Travis claimed Jodi was stalking him yet he was talking to her on a daily basis and still having sex with her. People normally call the police on their stalkers, they hide from their stalkers. I have never heard of anyone who hangs out with their stalker much less have sex with them. I cannot believe how so many people are stupid enough to go along with the trash that HLN puts out to the public. It is really scary that so many people are so evil and want to see this poor girl get the death penalty. Makes me so sick!

        • Ithaca is gorgeous

          Yea and people continue to have relationships with people that choke them out, make them wear child’s clothing, and look at child porn. Your theory holds no water.

          • Milan McCandle

            Did Rihanna, the singer, continue her relationship with the creep, Chris Brown, who beat her face to a bloody pulp? Could she get away from him any time she wants? Oh, no answer for that. You STILL cannot get through your head the dynamics of abuse, no matter what anyone says. You willfully refuse to learn anything. That means you have an agenda and it’s obvious what your agenda is.

          • Ithaca is gorgeous

            Then don’t use the theory that Travis wouldn’t have stayed with Jodi even after she stalked him and he felt she was a threat on his life.

          • Leah

            I don’t think you understood her response

          • Heather Soper

            No evidence of stalking, unless you think hearsay from his ex-girlfriends–for the Prosecution–counts, which it doesn’t, of course.
            Would You have sex with your stalker? Would you want to go out with your stalker?
            You’re the perfect fodder for HLN, they need people like you to brainwash, they get some sort of sadistic pleasure out of it or they wouldn’t pervert the course of justice, and there’s plenty like you, which is why this case was a miscarriage of justice; the jurors and people like you, take every word out of their vile mouths as gospel truth.
            They should be in jail.

          • Heather Soper

            Yes, you’re right, they Do. This shows me you know absolutely nothing about women who are/ have been, abused.
            Sadly its not just ”theory”, its a very sad fact.

        • Milan McCandle

          I have a stalker as we speak. He has been stalking me for 20+ years, in spite of me moving away and at great, great cost to me.
          The modus operandi of a stalker is always a smear campaign against their target to discredit them. This is what my stalker has done behind my back in every possible way he could. He had no compunction about who he would contact, no embarrassment, nothing. He actually contacted one of my sales reps and told her a vicious pack of lies, prompting her to quit and causing no end of problems with my business. Nothing was beyond his reach, and he did not hesitate to trash me to all and sundry.
          This is a person who broke into my home, and I came home unexpectedly to find him inside my house. The police arrested him, and it did not faze him one bit.
          I have noticed that Jodi has NEVER spread nasty stuff about Travis, particularly prior to the killing. I do not count defending her life at trial. Her goal has always been to protect Travis’ reputation. Real stalkers have no such qualms.
          My stalker told a police officer that I was stalking someone when he was arrested for stalking. He would say and do anything to accuse me of what he himself was and is. Sounds like something Travis would and did say.
          I couldn’t agree more with you. You HIDE from stalkers. You want NOTHING to do with a stalker, NOTHING. You learn that the slightest contact with a stalker will buy you another length of time being stalked, I think they say it’s at least another 6 weeks in ordinary cases, so you learn to not even answer the phone.
          My stalker slashed my tires when I went out with someone I was dating the first time, and several times afterward. NO ONE with a brain would have contact with someone who slashes their tires willingly after that, no one.
          Sky Hughes and that bunch are protecting the LDS, as Jason said. Very simple, and that makes them disgusting, I agree.

      • Milan McCandle

        I am very, very glad that you started this website and are speaking out and providing a forum for those who see HLN for what they are.
        As I’m sure you’ve experienced and heard, I have never seen the like of it for these people just mobbing anyone who speaks out against these injustices on Facebook and other comment sites, but mainly Facebook. They get posts removed, they get ridiculous numbers of people to reply to bully others into silence, and ridicule everyone who dares to speak against them.

    • Milan McCandle

      You’ve hit it right on the head. “HLN is having a party every day”. I agree these people are a scourge on the face of humanity.
      If I knew these people in person, I couldn’t get away from them fast enough. Anyone who would talk that way about someone else just for fun and profit, and parade every idiot with the overwhelming desire to be on t.v. in front of their audience, is an immoral, unethical, disgusting person with no integrity whatsoever.

  • James Lynn

    I don’t know what HLN is thinking setting up a mock jury box right in front of THE COURTHOUSE for their sleazy “After Dark” show. Right there for everyone, the Alexander family, potentially some real jurors, to see. Does it get any more tasteless than that? IMO HLN is on a mission and won’t stop until they cause a mistrial.

    • http://twitter.com/occupyhln Occupy HLN

      James, it’s precisely why, assuming Jodi gets manslaughter or M2 and Sugar Sherry Stephens gives her the max sentence (21-25 years or so), Jodi has an automatic appeal. She didn’t sequester this jury, and HLN know this all too well. What they’re doing isn’t by accident. They know damn well what they’re doing.

      HLN knows M1 is off the table, but they’re still on their trial-by-media mission with their cardboard cutout stages on After Dark. And if you didn’t think Nancy Grace was dirty, check out http://www.occupyhln.org/mistrial

      Good post. Thanks for posting! Come back!

      ~ Jason

      • Milan McCandle

        Yes! Plus, I came across an article (I’ll try to find it) that talked about the effect of acting things out, such as in a mock trial, has on the jury. It is a very strong form of persuasion more so than just speaking the “facts” of the case. Acting things out has a huge impact. That was not lost on me, knowing those jurors were watching that trial “morality plays” on HLN and/or their friends and family were watching them and whispering in their ears about all of it.
        I noticed their timing as well.
        They were particularly vociferous whenever they wanted to have an especially strong impact on that jury.
        Now they are doing all they can to influence future jurors. It’s a hideous miscarriage of justice.

  • Milan McCandle

    Not only does the prosecution get two closing arguments, and the defense one, it is a basic tenet of persuasion that the first and last arguments have the most impact and are the most likely to be remembered. Which is why I was horrified to find that is exactly the order in which the closing arguments went in the Jodi Arias case. In my view, it’s even more slanted than two closing arguments to one.
    Also, this was a case where the defendant was on the witness stand, and gave up her right to “take the fifth” and not have her own words twisted against her, thereby putting her in the position of having to PROVE her innocence, instead of the way it is supposed to be, that the prosecution has the burden of proof.
    That completely negates the argument that the prosecution has the burden of proof, therefore they should get two closing arguments to the defense’s one.
    Why isn’t it at the very least different in cases such as the Jodi Arias case, where the defendant must take the witness stand in order to have a defense?
    Disgusting. The more I see, the worse it gets.

  • Milan McCandle

    Reasons the Maricopa County judicial system in particular is unfair can be found in the article in “Judicature March/April 2012 * Vol 95 No 5 – Capital Case Crisis in Maricopa County, Arizona – A Response from the Defense” It is located here: http://omlaw.com/uploads/publications/2012-04%20-%20LAH%20-%20ARTICLES%20-%20Capital%20Case%20Crisis%20in%20Maricopa%20County%20Arizona%20and%20A%20Response%20From%20the%20%20(4).pdf

    Boy, is it an eye-opener regarding the Jodi Arias case! Some of the points in the article are:

    1)Maricopa County alone had 65 percent more capital cases pending than the next three highest death penalty-charging jurisdictions combined. Los Angeles, and Harris County Texas had less than 1case pending per 100,000. Clark county had less than 2 per 100,000, and Maricopa County had nearly 4 per 100,000.

    2) Maricopa County fails to distinguish capital murder aggravators from other, regular felonies which produces unreliable and arbitrary results. A study by Arizona counsel in a recent death penalty case found the Maricopa County Attorney alleged 78 percent of capital cases were especially heinous, cruel or depraved; the same County Attorney also alleged that 23 percent of non-capital first degree murder cases were especially heinous, cruel or depraved.

    3)The Maricopa County Attorney seeks the death penalty in nearly 50 percent of all first degree murder cases. The article writer asks whether the Maricopa County Attorney deliberately increased capital case filings in 2006 and 2007 in order to achieve a political/public relations benefit or to overwhelm the capital defense system – but, concurrently with an extreme increase in capital case filings, the Maricopa County Attorney went to the legislature to introduce a bill that would have tightly restricted the time available for the defense to prepare for capital cases and would have limited discovery in post-conviction proceedings. At the same time, the County Attorney began making public comments blaming defense counsel for failure to efficiently manage caseloads as a reason for the extreme number of pending capital cases.

    4)The article then goes on to explore the ridiculously heavy caseloads unique to Maricopa County defense counsel working on capital cases. (Just summarizing the article as well as I can here in the comment box) That section is a real eye opener! I believe this was a huge issue for Kirk Nurmi, and one of the reasons he wanted off of the case early on. It explains that there are two dynamics at work: an extremely heavy workload and a tighter timeline to investigate and present a defense.

    5)”Heavy caseloads combined with shortened timeframes to investigate and litigate cases have had devastating effects on attorney’s ability to defend capital cases. This dynamic has produced predictable results.”:

    6) “The death penalty conviction rate for those cases in which the prosecution filed a notice of intent to seek the death penalty has grown from 6.3 percent in 1999 to 20.9 percent in 2009. THE DEATH PENALTY RATE FOR DEATH PENALTY CASES THAT ACTUALLY PROCEEDED TO TRIAL INCREASED EVEN MORE DRAMATICALLY – FROM 10.3 PERCENT IN 1999 TO 72.7 PERCENT IN 2008.”

    “That means that for every three defendants charged with a capital offense who proceed to trial in Maricopa County two are sentenced to death.”

    Following this, there is a lot more info on the “local legal culture”, too much to give a synopsis here, anyone interested must read it.

    7) “Conclusion”
    “BY FAR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF DEATH PENALTY CASES IN AMERICA HAS BEEN BROUGHT HERE IN THIS ONE COUNTY” (caps mine, don’t know if html tags work here)”Why this one County has ascended to the top of the case-volume list will continue to be debated”….”But, one is left with the disturbing possibility that some of those on death row, and some of those that entered a plea to avoid the threat of the death penalty, may well have been innocent. Others most certainly had mitigating circumstances that should have been developed and presented by trial counsel. We cannot know how many people are on Arizona’s death row today who should not be there, but it is hard to conclude that there are none.”

    Hope that made sense, the original article is very long so I tried to shorten it a bit and still get some of the important points across. I must say, this article confirmed suspicions I’ve had about what goes on in Maricopa County.

    Jodi Arias’ case has fallen right in the time frame discussed in the article. Can’t help but think that those factors explained in the article have had a profound effect on Jodi Arias’ case, and will affect her fate.

  • Leah

    AND, and… Added to that…….. Jury selection. Attorneys use software and profile jurors to seat the perfect jurors that they think will side with them. I’d rather be tried by a judge than a jury, to be honest with you.

    Read this:

    http://www.plaintiffmagazine.com/Apr11/Durrani_Jury-selection_There-is-an-app-for-that_Plaintiff-magazine.pdf